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Oh dear! David Cameron suddenly decides the Conservatives do “do the EU” after all. In a long batch of waffle in the Telegraph Mr Cameron assisted by the Prime Minister of the Czech republic sets out the Conservative vision for the future of the EU, a vision based on the formation of the new political grouping they are building in the EU Parliament the Movement for European Reform

There is nothing much to say about the Conservatives leaders thoughts on the subject that has not been said thousands of times before this does not prevent the commenters in both the Times and the Telegraph saying it.

No chance of the Tories winning the next election then!

Dream on Mr Cameron. You obviously don’t know your British history - still you wouldn’t as you’re only a boy!

I take it Cameron doesn’t want to win the election then. Most of us want out of the EU not in it in any way. I hope the people wake up and realise he is Blair MK2, he’s already been to the Bilderberg meeting,

Visitors from Mars would be bemused not only by the EU, but also by David Cameron’s policy on the EU.

Reform from the inside? We’ve been trying that for years and been ignored.

If he really is going to say these things then fair enough at least he has made a decision. That decision is one of closer EU integration, of accepting that parliament is no longer relevent and that his party will be no different to NuLab.

Maybe Mr Cameron, who incidentally isn’t a leader and may never be, seems to think that having 70% of law made by the EU and not able to be repealed by any national electorate is democracy.

Apparently the EU ‘has helped entrench democracy and stability from the Baltic to the Mediterranean‘.

An interesting point - though somewhat at odds with the fact that we are not permitted a vote on our membership of it.

The Conservatives have already had their time to change the EU, they did not change anything then and they will not do it in the future. The only way for Britain is to repudiate the EU Treaties and then celebrate Freedom and independence.

Fifty years ago the people were lied to about the European Community. They are being lied to today.

The UK has paid its dues to the EU and then some. We now have no fishing industry. We have little agriculture. Democracy is now under a set of higher powers which inch by inch take more and more power.

Oh dear, so Dave thinks he can change the EU. Since 1973, after Heath sold this country out, governments have tried to change the EU without success. All they have done is reduced our sovereignty and under Blair, made sure we pay more.

An EU to be proud of’? The only one I can think of is one which we aren’t in.

It is a scandal that 80% of British law now comes from Brussels where there is no effective power of oversight.

Not so much a vision as a blurry haze of catchwords and jibberish. There is not a single substantive policy view here, not a position or an attitude. This was clearly written by a PR, buffed by a committee, with every shred of sense or meaning ripped from it and buried in trash.

There are a lot of words here, and some loosely stated sentiment, but as usual with Mr Cameron there is a complete absence of substance.

For God’s sake how many more times do we have too suffer some Tory leader saying how he wants an EU of independant states when such a thing has never been on the agenda and never will be.

If you are against further integration and protecting of the ‘nation state” then why not simply pass a law that guarantees parliament supremecy?

This is just more Cameron tosh . When will he realise that we don’t want the EU with all its corruption and sinecures . We have enough of that in this country .

Hmm! An apparently attractive philosophy, but one with all fine phrases and no specifics - sound familiar does it?

All good - that is if it had been written 15 years ago. Cameron knows this, but apparently felt that it was time to spin a bit for the benefit of the real Conservatives. The EU has other plans and is well underway to implement the United States of Europe. It would take a Margaret Thatcher to reverse the flow.

Same tired old propaganda, these statements have been debunked so many times I can not beleive they are still trying to use them.

This ‘vision’ is just the old one dressed-up to make it palatable to the individual in each state. It is more than apparent that Dave is part of a socialist agenda by these words.

Hang on! Didn’t “Dave” trot out a
similar load of tosh a few weeks
back? What has changed
meanwhile? Talk about flogging a
dead horse!

Another new idea and a fresh leader -into the meat grinder they go! How long will it be before we hear “We’re winning the battle of ideas, no really, we’re winning the argument…” Such enthusiasm, such futility.

Building “an EU to be proud of”….an oxymoron, surely.
Thanks Dave, see you at the ballot box.

Dave, you jest surely.